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Dossing
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Remove chart-table

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Hi all,

My 1976 #1080 does not have the port bunk bed, behind the chart-table. Since we're now up to 5 people I need to create that bed by removing the wall behind the chart-table. Then I got thinking if I actually could just remove the chart-table to get avoid taking up the whole space below the "locker"?, so I both keep some locker-space and get a full length bed. I really don't use the chart-table for anything. Anybody have removed the chart-table?

Thanks

Best Regards
Frank
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Bob McGovern
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Hi, Frank. Our Ballad (#18?) also has the aft-facing chart table and no quarter berth. It should be simple to turn that space into a berth, either with a forward-facing chart table (as on later Ballads) or no chart table at all. Probably still need a navigation station there somehow, but not necessarily a chart table. Is most of your sailing day trips, or do you sometimes do longer, over-night trips?
Dossing
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Hi Bob,

I did not know that some Ballads have the chart-table facing the other direction. For now we crusing small trips, learning to sail - and with small Kids onboard its mostly in great sailing condition only. That said, we spent 9 days aboard this summer, sailing small trips, but enjoyed the life around/in the habour.

I think I'll see how much I can get going removing the Chart table. Maybe it can come in handy as a House Chart-table. It's still a good quality piece of furniture. I'll update later with pictures when thinkgs happens.

Thanks.

Cheers
Frank
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prjacobs
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Hi Frank,
Interesting that our boats are only five numbers apart (mine is #1085) yet the chart tables are different. I have a forward facing chart table which is handy to sit my laptop on while sailing, and a great place to hang out, out of the way, when the Admirable is in the galley.
This is a picture taken during reconstruction. The side cabinet was yet to go in. If you need any measurements or pictures I'd be glad to help.
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For this discussion & future reference, this boat has a slightly modified aft-facing nav station, similar to our 1972 Ballad:

http://www.western-horizon.co.uk/archiv ... boat_id=51#

This one is closer to the original, with sliding cupboard doors:

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Cutaway drawing of the forward-facing desk and quarter berth:

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And a photo of same:

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You could omit the clamp-on desk and extend the bed all the way to the bulkhead, which would reduce space stolen from the locker. And the head of the bunk would make a nice seat. For day sails, the saloon table or a settee can be used as a chart table. (I have always been a bit puzzled about the chart table/quarter berth arrangements on longer voyages, if the quarter berth is intended as a sea berth. How does the watch person mark the chart without sitting on their crewmate's head? Also, wouldn't the cushion get very wet?)
Dossing
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Peter and Bob,

thanks for your replies - time just flow away and spring is suddenly here. I quit the thought off removing the chart-table, so just today removed the wall so we can use the port bunk bed. Still a lot of small stuff to do with cleaning up etc.

Peter, maybe I did not explain good enough, but I think we have the same layout, with the chart-table facing forwards.

Best Regards
Frank
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prjacobs
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Frank, sorry for the misunderstanding. :o
My only complaint of the original table was that the space between the engine box and the table was too small to get my fat leg through. I ended up removing about 2" from the aft edge of the whole unit and now it's fine.
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